Sunday, October 26, 2014

Ridikulous ..

Religion has been banned as a topic on Bolt Report Supporters Group in the past .. it isn't debated well in political terms.
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Dear sir
To be Christian is to have faith Jesus was sent by God to save us from our iniquities
Jesus said " I am the way the truth and the life no one cometh unto the father cept by me .
Abraham 's wife Sarah had a son when Sarah was said to be barren and 100 years old .
. To continue the hier the first born is given the role that of an. hier it was the law of the land.
.Abraham knowing Sarah was barren did teake the servants wife to bare a son Ishmaal( the start of the Arabs )
But when Sarah bore a son when 100Abraham was told to kill the child Sarah did bare named Isaacby God and as a faithfull servant went to do what God had asked of him .
But as Abraham drew his dagger God said "kill not thy son thoust faithful servant unto the Lord God and there was a lamb caught in a thicket and God said spare your Son (Isaac )sacrifice the lamb instead and Isaac will continue the bloodline and inheritance (the Jews Isrealites and Christians ).
Ishmaal, the father of the Arabs was now jelous of his half brother (theres an indication of what is said to be some timr after an negotiation of peace snd resolve )who was not made hier by the law of the land but by God's will .
Then we have the prophesy of Jesus .
Then Jesus is born .died and raised again now sitting at the right hand of God
The book being the kuran and islam teaches that Jesus isnt who my faith says He is and and some say Jesus is just s precurser to muhammod.
These are just the facts .
But if one does say one stands by Jesus. who is Lord and Saviour . And there is no one after Him . One must aknowledge the freedom of others to believe in the faith they have .
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  • Paul Fern So?
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  • Jason Bennetts Steve first of all.......

    You have inadvertantly summed up the difinitive problem with religion.

    You stated :

    But if one does say one stands by Jesus. who is Lord and Saviour . And there is no one after Him . One must aknowledge the freedom of others to believe in the faith they have .

    You have highlighted the exact problem with ALL religions

    Christians believe they are correct
    Jews believe they are correct
    Muslims believe they are correct
    Catholics believe they are correct. 
    So on and so forth

    Religions in reality in this way of thinking will not and cannot ever co-exist without problems arrising.

    Steve the bible was written by MAN NOT ANY "GOD"!!!!!
    Religion started when the first conman met the first fool!

    all religion does is segregate people and cause people unnecessary grief , death and is man's first blight as a statement of what defines people.

    Bearing in mind i do respect people's beliefs as long as it isnt shoved in my face such as you have now done.
    Also how religious beliefs have such a strong influence in the medical science really aggrivates me!!
    especially when there have been a couple of stories in Ireland about doctors not performing life savingprocedures and abortions be cause of religious crap!!!

    (Note i have posted the news links in here previously so those claims can be verified)

    Stephanie Carroll Mandy McleanDavid Daniel Ball Can we please BAN ALL Religious topics in the group please?? 

    Myself and other members feel like it is being forced on us and it is not fair.

    Can we please have a bit of common sense and keep it to Bolt, actual politics etc?? 

    Im not discriminating against any one religion i think we should ban it ALL.
    I cant tell you how many times i have been attacked for being an atheist that is not fair!!

    Cheers Steve
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  • Robert Ward Jason..............are not our laws based on Christian Beliefs? i e the 10 commandments
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  • Anna Andjelkovic listen to this man ..
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  • Jason Bennetts Robert the ten commandemnts are the only good thing to come of the bible!! They are good principles to live by but there are other passages in the bible that contradict them all!!!!!
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  • Tassels O'Truth I hope you don't want to ban the Jesuits, because we're big fans of Tony and Joe who we helped get into power. Bolt we may have helped too, I can't remember now, but he's our man anyway.
    29 mins · Like · 1
  • Jason Bennetts fair enough Tassels i just think we should stick to actual politics in a political group.
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  • Anna Andjelkovic where's the law stating that to be a good person, that one must be a believer..
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  • Jason Bennetts Robert You have just insulted my beliefs as an athiest. You are now saying you have to have religious (particularly christian) faith to be a good person????
  • Robert Ward Jason.....i wholeheartly believe the Bible but as you said this is a political page so we shouldn't talk religion. But.......our laws, even our constitution is religion based. Sometime politics and a persons faith does go hand in hand. Where would society be without law and order - anarchy. So we need to acknowledge where our laws came from.
  • Robert Ward Jason where have i said you have to be religious to be a good person?
  • Jason Bennetts Robert what about medical science??? Like the news link i posted about a hindu woman being denied a life saving abortion depsite the docs KNOWING it would save her life!! Tell that to the poor womans husband!!
  • Anna Andjelkovic so, atheists wouldn't be capable of creating laws and morals to live by...?. that doesn't make sense and quite offensive to non-believers
    21 mins · Like · 1
  • Jason Bennetts Robert Religion should just not mix with Politics or and science. PERIOD!!
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  • Jason Bennetts Thank you Anna 
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  • Robert Ward Okay Jason.....................lets get rid of God. There are no governing rules to abide by. Survival of the fittest "Darwinism" LETS GO FOR IT.
  • Jason Bennetts Again Robert with the athiest insults!!!
    19 mins · Like · 1
  • Jason Bennetts Robert Let me ask you something ok. So you believe faith should play a part of how you or your family get treated medically??? Even if a doctor of a different faith forces his beliefs on you???
  • Robert Ward Jason...tell me where i have insulted you. You have personally attacked me for no reason. All i said was aren't our laws based on christian beliefs"....a genuine question. Then you verbally attack me.
  • Robert Ward i am still waiting for you to show me where i insulted you?
  • Jason Bennetts Robert where have i attacked you??? Show me?? You automatically chose to assume i support that darwinian theory. Which i believe is incorrect btw) Ok let me put this in simple terms not to stultify you but to make things a little easier for you 
  • Jason Bennetts im waiting for YOU to show ME!!
  • Robert Ward 1 You have just insulted my beliefs as an athiest. You are now saying you have to have religious (particularly christian) faith to be a good person????
  • Robert Ward 2 Again Robert with the athiest insults!!!
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  • Jason Bennetts that is not an attack Robert !! That is actually a very fair question!!
  • Jason Bennetts ah but Robert you did insult me as an athiest by assuming i believe that we should live in a dog eat dog world

    Okay Jason.....................lets get rid of God. There are no governing rules to abide by. Survival of the fittest "Darwinism" LETS GO FOR IT.
  • Anna Andjelkovic I love how the zealots, soon turn a discussion into a 'personal' attack.
  • Robert Ward you had already claimed i had insulted you previously Jason.....which i would still like you to show me but you cannot......that post was just agreeing with you.
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  • Robert Ward no personal attacj here Anna..........i asked a qustion (which jason didn't like) as didn't our laws come from christian beliefs?...he could've answered wityh a simple yes or no......but he had to go down the "i am insulted path"
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  • Jason Bennetts Robert I did not verbally attack you!! Show me one personal sledge or curse word! Show me one!!.

    Your insult is directed at me by the assumption that i suppoert6 an anarchy type lawless land. By saying that you have branded me as someone that has nomoral compass due to my faith in Science as a opposed to a religious entity
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  • Paul Fern Tassels - And the bad news? Shorten is a Jesuits boy too.
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  • Robert Ward Jason..............are not our laws based on Christian Beliefs? i e the 10 commandments
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    Anna Andjelkovic listen to this man ..
    Anna Andjelkovic's photo.
    24 mins · Like · 4

    Jason Bennetts Robert the ten commandemnts are the only good thing to come of the bible!! They are good principles to live by but there are other passages in the bible that contradict them all!!!!!
    23 mins · Edited · Like

    Tassels O'Truth I hope you don't want to ban the Jesuits, because we're big fans of Tony and Joe who we helped get into power. Bolt we may have helped too, I can't remember now, but he's our man anyway.
    22 mins · Like · 1

    Jason Bennetts fair enough Tassels i just think we should stick to actual politics in a political group.
    19 mins · Edited · Like

    Anna Andjelkovic where's the law stating that to be a good person, that one must be a believer..
    21 mins · Like · 1

    Jason Bennetts Robert You have just insulted my beliefs as an athiest. You are now saying you have to have religious (particularly christian) faith to be a good person????
    20 mins · Like
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  • Robert Ward in order Jason....................what have i said that's insulted you?????
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  • Anna Andjelkovic its been a while since I read our Constitution Robert, so you may be right in a sense, but I still maintain as an agnostic, that I do maintain our laws... no need for Christianity to tell me how moral I am supposed to be, according to YOUR faith, not mine ..
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  • Robert Ward you last comment is what i am talking about
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  • Jason Bennetts Robert Ward ok you jus tdont get it this is what i have taken issue with :
    Okay Jason.....................lets get rid of God. There are no governing rules to abide by. Survival of the fittest "Darwinism" LETS GO FOR IT.
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  • Jason Bennetts Robert If all our laws were based on christian beliefs why are

    Honour thy mother and thy father

    Thou Shalt not commit adultery
    thou shalt not cover thy neighbours wife etc

    Prosecutable offences?????
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  • Robert Ward you claimed an insult before i posted that...................stop been a cry baby
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  • Jason Bennetts Then why wont you answer my above question??
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  • Anna Andjelkovic whi is this Steve Allcock addressing his letter to BTW... is this post even for real,
    Just now · Like · 1
  • Robert Ward once you tell me where i originally insulted you..... i will
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  • Jason Bennetts Again Steve Allcock\ Okay Jason.....................lets get rid of God. There are no governing rules to abide by. Survival of the fittest "Darwinism" LETS GO FOR IT.
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