Monday, April 14, 2014

Overstepping

I booted Jeff Valona for their activism which falls short of discussion.  - ed
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Jeff Valona
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There you have it people...Your Kids are being taught how to be lesos...I don't know about you guys, but I feel sick in the stomach...literally.

Let’s Force Schoolkids To Do Lesbian Kissing
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  • Phil Box, Dallas Beaufort and 6 others like this.
  • Peter Needham This needs to be tackled head on by the majority - NOBODY but a twisted few support this.
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  • Jeff Valona Next they will introduce the toys and foods to kindergarten kids depicting sexual organs...it is already happening in Europe. What is really scary is the fact that we have not heard a thing about this filth. Total secrecy. Even Hitler would envy these people. ITS TIME TO GET UP AND PROTECT OUR KIDS. This much we owe it to them.
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  • Terry Wood Work places are being forced to do Diversity training, the buzzword of 2013/14. Google it.
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  • Daniel Mozuras It's hard enough for children to be children without the continued brainwashing of their innocence.
    If I had my way the wanker who came up with this idea would be shot.
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  • Charlie D'Mellow Wait... what? So are kids being forced to kiss each other or not? The rest "about normalising homosexuality" seems okay to me. If two consenting people want to make out or screw each other, it hardly seems like a crime.
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  • Guy LaChina The UN at work courtesy of the Carbon Tax. They get 10% of it !!!!
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  • Roslyn Kean Anyone one else feeling that our lives are bring exploited? Not what I want my great grandchildren to be learning at school.
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  • Daniel Mozuras It's not a matter of normalising anything. It's a matter of pushing an idealism or sexuality on young minds that are developed and mature to comprehend.
    Most parents would possibly agree that children don't really develop a real awareness of boys and girls until puberty. They ask and explore at an earlier age, but child's play is vastly different to actual sexual awareness.
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  • Mary Elizabeth Horvath For God's sake!!!!! Whaaat!!
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  • Charlie D'Mellow Well what are they teaching the kids exactly? The nitty gritty or that some men like other men? If you look at any fairy tale there's a prince/princess theme. What's the problem if there's a princess/princess theme, for example? The Simpsons was a favourite show for kids in 1997 when they had an episode centered around being gay. That's 17 years ago. If kids are being taught not to use "gay" as an insult from primary school, then that's only a good thing because it's one less vulnerable group being discriminated against.
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  • Jeff Valona Thats Right people..This is Penny Wong at work....and we complain about Talibans...We have plenty of "Talibans" of a different kind which in my view is way more dangerous. A real Taliban you can see it coming from a mile away.
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  • Reg Porkus Again we have so called educators implementing the field testing of social concepts. Can the education stick to teaching basic education and leave parenting to parents.
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  • Charlie D'Mellow One group kills people they disagree with, the other teaches kids not to bully others for what they are. HOW IS THAT WORSE THAN KILLING PEOPLE?!!?
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  • Jeff Valona That will definitely happen, once people like you get rid of democracy...for now you limit yourselves to installing first you kind of "democracy", then you will eventually eliminate your opponents physically....For now you are kind enough to get them out of business....Look at Firefox Example...
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  • Jeff Valona Once upon a time there was gay bashing..now we have hetero bashing....including children
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  • Kay Walsh This is not right. Surely it's not being done? But then when I was teaching 'Health' govt policy was to teach that when you did drugs you did them with a friend. One was supposed to keep an eye out for the other. Warped? Yes I am. I did not do it the way I should and got no more health classes.
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  • Charlie D'Mellow You might want to take off the tinfoil hat, Jeff. I'm not trying "get rid of democracy", and I'm not even gay. Where in history has there been a plot by gay people to overthrow democracy?
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  • Daniel Mozuras I will try and put it more more clearly Charlie D'Mellow.
    As a survivor of 8 years of childhood sexual abuse, I was continually subjected to depraved views of homosexuality this has manifested itself in a lifelong trauma of not being capable of developing relationships and other mental health issues.
    This effects all victims, as children do not have the mental maturity, life experience to distinguish between childhood and adulthood when it is a choice.
    You need to learn to walk before you can run. 
    Return innocence to childhood.
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  • Jeff Valona When???? Right now!!
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  • Jeff Valona Spot on Daniel....So much for protecting the kids from Child abuse.....this is just grooming the kids to be abused by homosexuals and their first cousins..pedophiles.
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  • Jeff Valona See further on this article.......There are far too many shocking examples of this to choose from already. Some months ago for example I reported on the insanity taking place in NSW, citing one news report: “It was revealed that students at 12 NSW high schools are being taught it is wrong and ‘heterosexist’ to regard heterosexuality as the norm for relationships. The ‘Proud Schools’ pilot program, implemented in 12 government schools in Sydney and the Hunter, is designed to stamp out ‘homophobia, transphobia (fear of transsexuals) and heterosexism’.

    “Teachers are given professional development to learn to identify and stamp out any instances of ‘heterosexist’ language in the playground, such as ‘that’s so gay’. But at least 10 Liberal MPs are ‘extremely concerned’ about the program, and will complain to Education Minister Adrian Piccoli this week.”

    And well they should be. This is complete moonbattery. Schools once were about teaching kids how to read and write. Today it seems that many of our schools are about one thing only: indoctrination and proselytising, forcing the hapless students into a rigid Group Think in which only the radical leftist agenda is given a hearing.

    Our public school system is now just a tool of the secular left state to push activist agendas, especially homosexual propaganda. A war has been declared on our children, and former goods like freedom, morality and concern for the social good have been squashed under the jackboot of political correctness.

    But consider this much more recent case coming out of the state of New York. This is another shocker, but sadly far too typical of what is happening all over the West. One news item begins this horror story as follows:

    “Young girls at a New York middle school were instructed to ask one another for a lesbian kiss and boys were given guidance on how to tell if women are sluts during an anti-bullying presentation on gender identity and sexual orientation, angry parents allege.

    “The special health class was held last week at Linden Avenue Middle School in Red Hook, NY. The students were separated by gender – with students from Bard College leading the workshops. Parents are especially furious after their young daughters were told that it was perfectly normal for 14-year-old girls to have sex and there was nothing their parents could do to intervene.

    “The boys and girls were also given a sexual vocabulary primer – that included words like ‘pansexual’ and ‘genderqueer.’ ‘I am furious,’ said Mandy Coon, whose daughter was in the class. ‘I am her parent. Where does anyone get the right to tell her that it’s okay for her to have sex?’

    “Coon told Fox News that her daughter was upset by the classroom lecture and was confused about why she had to ask another girl for a kiss. ‘She told me, “Mom, we all get teased and picked on enough – now I’m going to be called a lesbian because I had to ask another girl if I could kiss her”,’ Coon said.”

    All this is horrific enough, but notice how the propagandists operate: they seek to do all this by stealth. They refuse to inform parents about what they are doing, and actually take umbrage when concerned parents find out about it and make a stink.

    Now why am I reminded about how totalitarian societies operate here? Why is it that police states have always sought to separate children from their parents, and ensure that the state alone is the only intellectual and moral educator of the child?

    All the tyrants have clearly stated that this is what they desire. Said Lenin, “Give me four years to teach the children and the seed I have sown will never be uprooted. Give us the child for 8 years and it will be a Bolshevik forever.” Or as Adolph Hitler boasted: “Give me the keys to the school books and I will give you the keys to the nation.”

    Brave New World indoctrination is alive and well in our public schools. All the more reason for every parent who does not want his or her children to become statist PC zombies to pull them out now.
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  • Charlie D'Mellow Daniel, I'm truly sorry to hear that. Under no circumstances should a child ever be allowed to suffer like that. I think there are a lot of people who don't realise just how cunning and sociopathic child abusers can be. 

    I think this is different because all that is being taught is acceptance. This is important because, contrary to Jeff's conspiracy theory that gay people are out to overthrow us, there is still an incredible amount of discrimination (violent discrimination) against gay people in the world, a few of which I'll list from the top of my head:

    Uganda's anti-gay laws could mean life in prison for anyone in a same-sex relationship.
    Same thing in Nigeria.
    The arrest and incarceration of transgender people in Greece.

    This is off the top of my head and it's happening right now, not in some conspiracy theory.
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  • Jeff Valona No You are not sorry you piece of crap....Acceptance????? How many Gay people do you have in parliament that are elected by heterosexuals do represent them??? Isn't this acceptance??? You are right to say that you are canning...but also you are getting bolder by the day. I just hope that one day people will wake up to themselves.
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  • Charlie D'Mellow You seem irrationally scared of gay people. Also I just found out that the "forced lesbian kissing" described in the "article" you presented, was a hoax.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/.../fox-news-forced-lesbian...
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  • Daniel Mozuras It's is the parent or carer who has raised and lived with the child 24/7 that is qualified to instruct and develop the child. Not some part time wannabe with an agenda.
    Juliar illard and Wong spent their uni. days screwing around and decided their own sexuality, it's disgusting that parasites like them are not allowing children the same right.
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  • Charlie D'Mellow A agree daniel. Parents should decide what to teach their kids. statement from the actual New York school:

    "In response to parental concerns about these sessions Dr. Zahedi, the middle school principal, held an 
    evening informational forum on April 16. This session was well attended and the subsequent feedback 
    has been positive. In addition, the Board of Education and Superintendent of Schools, Paul Finch, 
    addressed the community at the April 24 board meeting on the topic of these sessions. Here again, 
    feedback from the community and students was overwhelmingly positive."
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  • Charlie D'Mellow So the parents and students agreed with the school starting the program. Nobody is being forced to do anything, and the program was limited to teaching people not to be dicks to each other.
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  • Jeff Valona If it is not forced it is introduced as a way of teaching "acceptance". Then it will be part of the curriculum. This is not a fantasy. It is happening in Europe and USA as we speak. This has radicalized a lot of people over there giving wings to some extremist organisations...because people have no one to turn to protect their children.....This is the fruits of Gender Ideology. F. That. CHILDREN'S RIGHTS FIRST. Your homosexuality has never bothered anybody, but now you are shoving it down the throat of the society...
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  • Charlie D'Mellow For the last time, I'm not gay. What I am is against bullying and discrimination. If you think gay people are supporting extremist organizations, then you'll have to offer proof, because the original post by you is proved to be complete crap - a fake story designed to scare people.
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  • Daniel Mozuras It really doesn't matter who agreed and who didn't.
    Everyone goes through a stage around puberty that they feel different, it's who and how they speak to that will see the end result.
    Years ago I had a boy who was convinced he was gay because no girls would talk to him, I convinced him to allow himself to grow up. He now has 4 kids, I had no agenda but to give this child guidance and not an opinion.
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  • Jeff Valona Homophobia DOES NOT EXIST. It is just a tactic of Gender Ideology to play the victim...Check this example: In Italy last year were prosecuted only 27 cases of homophobia......27 cases in a country of 60 million....this means that it is in- existent. While the cases of HETERO-PHOBIA ARE SKYROCKETING and no body gives a damn as people are loosing their jobs and businesses.
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  • Charlie D'Mellow Jeff back your shit up about hetero-phobia with a scientific study or something. Stop spouting crap with nothing to back it up.

    Daniel, I think we actually agree with each other - we both think that vulnerable children shouldn't be persuaded to one type of orientation or another. The point I want to make is that's not happening in schools. The NY school stated:

    "Contrary to a few media reports, sexual activity among young adolescents was not condoned or promoted in any way. "
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  • Charlie D'Mellow That's because you're right, Daniel, and that school agrees with you. Schools shouldn't be condoning or promoting anything like that, and they're not. What I'm annoyed about is that Jeff is trying to make it seem like schools are forcing this stuff down people's throats.
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  • Jeff Valona Did the Mozilla CEO Lost his job as result of this???
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  • Daniel Mozuras Sorry Jeff Valona, but homophobia dose exist, but the definition has changed.
    The correct meaning or original meaning is to harass one that is not masculine or fit your idea of behavior.
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  • Jeff Valona You wanted example I gave em to you: The case study in Italy...Only 27 Cases of homophobia in a country of 60 million and the Fairfox Boss who lost his job, because he made a donation to a pro family organisation in 2008.....You have no answer for them
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  • Charlie D'Mellow Mozilla is an entirely separate issue from telling kids not to bully each other in schools. Yes, you get some fringe groups that will bash straight people. Yes, there are gay rapists and paedophiles. But that's what you get with a big enough population - there's always going to be some messed up people in every group.
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  • Jeff Valona Mozilla is a clear case of hetero-phobia in the highest levels of society...since you don't think it does not exist.
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  • Jeff Valona An indication that If they can get out of business a politician, or a successful business person of organisation, think about the little joe blog..
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  • Charlie D'Mellow Mozilla is obviously more complicated than that. I don't agree with it, but the CEO faced backlash for funding a bill against gay marriage, while belonging to a company that generally supports it. It is in no way a black-and-white "gay people are taking over companies" situation.
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  • Greg Johnston ????????????
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  • Charlie D'Mellow Also, even not taking into account African or other developing countries, the West has significantly more hate crime toward LGBT people than toward heterosexuals.

    http://www.theguardian.com/.../one-in-six-gay-people-hate...
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  • Charlie D'Mellow "In June 2012, Steven Simpson, an autistic, openly gay 18-year-old, had homophobic slurs written on his body and was set on fire at his birthday party [...]"

    Now where the HELL do you hear about gay people setting a straight person on fire?
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  • Daniel Mozuras Well Charlie D'Mellow a lesbian woman is in jail in SA for cutting off her nephews penis, because while bathing the 5 year old she was offended he had an erection.
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  • Jeff Valona Let me make something clear to all those Gay Partisans likeCharlie D'Mellow....Not all Gay People feel the same way as you do. In fact they are absolutely appalled and disgusted by your twisted politics. I know this as I have plenty of Gay friends that share the same view as myself. They are just terrified by this filth.
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  • Jeff Valona I gotta work now
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  • Charlie D'Mellow Daniel, no doubt some gay people commit hate crimes against straight people. Like I said... every group has their nutters... and you have to be pretty nuts to cut off someone's penis. My problem is only this:

    1. The original article is false and inflammatory. It serves no purpose other than fear-mongering. Jeff should have fact-checked before posting it.
    2. There is no conspiracy involving gay people taking over politics. I mean... that bloody speaks for itself.
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  • Jamie Sarge Stevens Teach them what to expect in the real world! Simple. They have been dumbing us down for 30 years now. Some agenda slowly being put in place!
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  • Shirleen Lawlor Discussing!!!!! Let children grow up without being brainwashed by adults with an agenda
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  • Shirleen Lawlor Perverts
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  • David Backholer Ask Pennyv Wong the same question .....and..... you will get a different answer I bet
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  • Shirleen Lawlor Wouldn't waste my time asking that stupid bitch anything. What's she got to do with school kids, she's not in government now thank god.
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  • Shirleen Lawlor Probably gets her jollies watching young girls kiss
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  • Frank Beamish Why do we have to have these sluts shoved in our face?
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  • Jeff Valona Shirleen Lawlor...she may not be in Govt, but she and her likes are governing this country. They do yield a lot of power. Never underestimate them.
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  • Daniel Mozuras Well Shirleen Lawlor your not far off the mark, when you consider her SA counterparts.
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  • Maija Boothby Total garbage. Which teachers and from which schools? I'm a teacher and certainly do not indoctrinate this to any of my students. Sounds like fear mongering to me.
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  • Beverley Prescott What the hell has school got to do with sexuality anyway? I think it has gone beyond any form of common sense these days. Thank goodness I don't have kids at school now. This is total BS - The should teach kids how to care for babies and how not to have kids maybe - looks like that is where it started off but now has gone overboard like every other damned things that these left wing groupies decide to push onto society. Is there no hope for this country to retain any of its morality? I thought school was about learning basics of life - not the reproduction or otherwise sexuality of life. School is for Schooling - time they got rid of all sexuality teaching I reckon if this is what it has come to. "There are far too many shocking examples of this to choose from already. Some months ago for example I reported on the insanity taking place in NSW, citing one news report: “It was revealed that students at 12 NSW high schools are being taught it is wrong and ‘heterosexist’ to regard heterosexuality as the norm for relationships. The ‘Proud Schools’ pilot program, implemented in 12 government schools in Sydney and the Hunter, is designed to stamp out ‘homophobia, transphobia (fear of transsexuals) and heterosexism’."
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  • Jeff Valona You are wrong Maija...this is being introduced as a pilot project without too much noise, and it has been implemented in many countries in Europe...all in the name of information, understanding and compassion. If not fear mongering...it is rather a scary reality..
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  • Maija Boothby Definitely not at the school I work at.
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  • Jeff Valona Eventually it will come to your school Maija...and you may lose your job if you oppose it
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  • Maija Boothby Some things are worth fighting for. I teach about evolution. I teach about natural climate change, not about ridiculous man made "carbon interference". I do not share the same viewpoint as many of my colleagues, n isnt that a great thing with a democratic society n freedom of speech. I have the scientific background
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  • Frank Beamish Maija if you teach evolution why don't you teach creation it is far more credible than evolution
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  • Maija Boothby I teach from the creation perspective as well. I try to be balanced in my approach.
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  • Maija Boothby It is up to the students to think for themselves n make their own opinions.
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  • Frank Beamish Thank you Maija that's great to hear
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  • Elaine Brook This is not the only warped teachings they give to our kids, it has been brought into the classrooms ever so subtly. I had a grand child come home from school and told us that our Ancestors were bad people and murderers , and that we were no better... ...See More
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  • Shirleen Lawlor Yes, too many teachers have their own agendas. Pity they scrape the bottom of the barrel when it comes to teachers, half of them are only teachers because they weren't smart enough to do any other courses at uni. Some can't spell and they are teaching our previous children and grandchildren. It a shame
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