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- Lenti Lenko We may not have illegal refugees but we do have illegal immigrants..... The Former ALP/Greens minority government also had another name for them: CLIENTS!!!!! What a joke!
Paul Kyladinos The hysterical and unpatriotic lefties will say anything to rubbish and undermine Australia because they put their political beliefs before anything else.
Vanhao Tran My case Lenti Lenko
Food, per head per week, was 2kg rice, 5 packets of instant noodle, a can of spam, a kg of dried salted fish so mouldy that we needed to wash the maggots away before re-drying. Those with relatives in US or France would buy extra food for themselves. The rest (90%) would make do with what we had.
Accommodation was barracks about 50m long, with 2m wide raised platforms either side. We were allocated about 1m each, no privacy except makeshift curtains between families.
Water needed to be fetched from tanks, 1 per 25 barracks so you can imagine the queue. We had 1 TV for those same barracks, and it was turned on a few hours per night.
Curfew was 11pm and if you are found outside after, often you would get flogged to a pulp. Not that it deterred the young ones seeking some moments together.
How Manus again, Paul Allen?- Paul Kyladinos The refugees are also security risks because they come to Australia without papers and the smuglers tell them to destroy all documents on them. Al-Queda wants to establish terror cells in Australia because Australian troops went to Iraq and Afganistan.
- Vanhao Tran We put in application for refugee status and waited for resettlement. If you have family in US or army ties then you specify that, but otherwise we are at the mercy of the future host. We had to learn English (or French if you intend to go to France or Canada). The countries conducted interviews with various frequency. US was usually monthly, whereas countries like Norway or Sweden did theirs every 6 months.
Not every one was successful and those fleeing after 90-91 often waited for years. I know of a few who waited for more than 10 years in Palawan (Philippines) before repatriated to VN. 
John Tran It's ever so sad when you think people will use other people's misery as a political attack than actually wanting to help.. The first thing is to stop people drowning and not let Indonesian smugglers see any incentive.. The second objective is to let our immigration department do it's job by focusing on refugees in actual camps nearer to areas of conflict and allow them determine cases that need urgent attention. That being done.. Some will love for more people to drown and turn their country upside down just to claim some victory, only someone with a twisted mind can do that..
Baz Hurst Interesting theory Vanhao Tran you dont want people to drown right?...you ...."hate Abbot therefore his policies suck"....right?... before Abbot Policies were put in place, over 1100 people drowned at sea, ..... since Abbots policies were put in place...NOT ONE person has drowned at sea.....REALITY CHECK... have another think about it- Baz Hurst hey John.....I did think again...this is what I came up with......"hear hear" means you are agreeing with what someone says.... ...followed by a quote in inverted commas. ... ... without being pedantic.....that post is agreeing with the quote...go figure
- Vanhao Tran Hush, we're on the same team. I only agreed with John that some "people will use other people's misery as a political attack than actually wanting to help."
If anything, I appreciate you passion Baz Hurst but save your ammos for the leftards. 
David Daniel Ball Baz, in English there are many ways of expressing ones self. Following Van's argument, he was not despising Abbott, but pointing out the tired old lefty attitude that involves playing the man, not the policy. I value Van's contributions even if he had meant it the way you have read it. Did you complete year 10 studies?
Stephanie Ann Carroll Baz Hurst, I deleted your comment to David...quite simply is was rude and downright insulting. If you have an opinion, express it like a decent human being, without the vile language or attack.
Phil Box Excellent work Stephanie Ann Carroll. Keeping the debate civil should be our aim and that of every member. I don't care what people's politics or position is, just keep it civil people. not that hard.- Phil Box Baz, just take your medicine, modify your behaviour and stay here for a long time. Whine like a spoilt 2 year old and bubye.
- Baz Hurst Hear Hear Sarah Hansen Young ""Refugees are now being treated by this Government worse than mass murderers and rapists,"
- Stephanie Ann Carroll Like I said, not here to argue, I pulled you up for your comments directed at David, end of story..... have your opinion on anything you like without personal insults and abuse.
- Baz Hurst so you say David. But apparently you can get away with bagging people like that....so tell me....Oh Mighty one.... how do you interpret this...................Hear Hear Sarah Hansen Young ""Refugees are now being treated by this Government worse than mass murderers and rapists," ? am I agreeing or disagreeing with the quote?.... please educate those less fortunate..
- Baz Hurst thats fine Stephanie, youv'e got a job to do, no worries. ... I've been on this page a long time......because I am a Bolt supporter, and up to now, also a supporter of David Ball...best youv'e got david is to call someone you disagree with (for what ?)...uneducated?... sad mate.. I responded to a quote, and got blasted, I responded to the blast and added an example..... quite simple really, it's quite simple even for the uneducated, I'm sure you adults will work it out
- Stephanie Ann Carroll Baz, I have to say, you did insult David with a bit of language and unkind commentary. No reason why you can't let it go and just be a "bolt supporter"... why don't you join the 80's song thread and chill ????
- Baz Hurst Stephanie, David was purring along nicely with a spiel ...then ended it with " you did finish year 10 didn't you"? ... you want me to send him a bouquet of flowers?.... And to date..NOBODY has been able to correct what I responded to., not even Professor Ball.... I DO understand though... it is difficult for those with a superiority complex conceding to the great unwashed
Craig Plaister The quote: 'Hear hear John Tran. "I hate Abbott, therefore his policies suck".' Was this comment meant to be sarcastic? That's how I read it. For the benefit of all commenters here and to defuse some of the tension, was this the case Vanhao Tran?- David Daniel Ball Van has answered that as have I .. Van's comment does not mean how you have taken it.
- David Daniel Ball Brad .. nobody has said that here. Van put those comments in quotes so as to illustrate what the protestors are saying .. which is illogical. Then Baz decides he doesn't like it.
- Craig Plaister The left tend to see conservatives like Abbott, Bolt, etc as caricatures, not as they really are. Then everything they see fits into this picture, regardless of whether it's true or not.
- Brad McShane Aaaaahhhh i see! ALL GOOD! I only caught the tail end of that, and it wasnt directed at anyone here specifically.
But it's an argument that works for me whenever Leftists pull that shit on me! - David Daniel Ball I guess I hit a nerve with Baz re year 10 education, but John Tran's answer was perfect and Baz got belligerent. John was one of my students back in the day .. I get protective ..
- Vanhao Tran Go to sleep Baz. Come back when you are less highly strung
It was never my intention to upset or mislead anyone, or at least I thought I was quite clear. A confession here, I have a mancrush on the mad monk and a deep respect for our little Johnny. As for Brown, Milne, Bandt, SHY and the Greens, they are good for one thing - compost! - Brad McShane See the thing that i've always found bizarre is, the fact that the Lefty's come to our pages and have these "arguments" and claim that us Conservatives are all manner of things under the sun, yet how many of us here spend a second of our day on their sites arguing them????
Very few, if any 
Mandy Mclean here's some Cheap Wine DDB
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwKo2bnGAgc
www.youtube.com. " Cold Chisel filmed at the Manly Vale Hotel the week the album East was relea...See more- Vanhao Tran Thanks David Daniel Ball. Must be the Viet in me I cut some slack for Baz only because he is passionate and we do share an intense hatred of the bullshit that is spewed by the socialist left/green. Who knows, he may even shout me a beer if we ever met (hint Baz Hurst)
Vivienne Smith Craig Plaister, your caricatures comment is spot on. And we all know who drew the picture of Abbott.....- Vivienne Smith Vanhao Tran, I thought it was good to put natural waste into compost, not fake stuff?
Victoria Clark Refugees? Is she ignoring the fact that most are economic refugees - many have volunteered to go back to their countries - SHY is just a crazy radical women who see the greens as a way to promote her hate and her frustrated life!
Margie Tily Just clicked on one of Paul Allen's links (he must have gone to bed) and one of the Manus Island worker's debunks all the allegations in the comments that followed, including the fact that there was an unlimited amount of water in all compounds.
sad .. some people have no idea what they say, what it means.
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